Prewashing Fabric Poll- by Gumbiecat- poll results at end

Title: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Gumbiecat on December 04, 2007, 05:17:40 AM
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I was surprised at how strongly quilters feel about this, yay or nay!

I'm one of the "in the door, in the machine" type people, having been burned once or twice with colour run. I've recently taken to adding a colour run sheet to the prewash as well, so I can do a mixture of dark colours without getting a gray overshadow to everything.

To bring back the nice, crisp feel, I also sometimes apply some spray starch before I begin cutting.

How about you?


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: TxMaryQuilts on December 04, 2007, 06:00:51 AM
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I didn't used to wash just because I had read you didn't Have to.
Then as I have read more and more about why you should, I have started washing.
Would eventually like to get all of my stash washed because I am developing a bad case of "I can't remember what has been and what hasn't been washed."

Best reason I heard for prewashing had nothing to do with colors running or fabric performance. It was the thought that maybe someone handling the fabric in the store may have sneezed on it or something. Eeewww.

Been washing before using ever since.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: finisher on December 04, 2007, 06:40:27 AM
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I didn't vote..because I don't see a category that fits. I don't wash. If I'm going to use a color like red. or purple, or dark navys..I put them in the sink one by one and just get them wet. If they run..I rinse until they stop. I used to wash..and found that good quality fabrics don't shrink enough to make a difference..and it created a lot of extra ironing.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: golo on December 04, 2007, 08:47:48 AM
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I always wash fabric when I am in a swap.... but don't normally for myself... :santa_shocked:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: BearFoot on December 04, 2007, 09:01:58 AM
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I always pre-wash if I am in a swap. For my own project...sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. If I am concerned about the fabric or the color then I usually do or I add Retayne to the water.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Krafty Lady on December 04, 2007, 09:56:52 AM
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When I made things for the shop, she never wanted anything washed, but mine is washed as soon a it comes in the door, too many chemicals, especially formaldehyde in it. Also too many materials shrink differently and they run a lot, that way I feel not only safer but healthier for doing it. Norma


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Gumbiecat on December 04, 2007, 03:19:58 PM
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Quote from: BearFoot on December 04, 2007, 09:01:58 AM
I always pre-wash if I am in a swap.


This is really interesting - I'm the exact opposite. After being told off a couple of times, the only fabric I DON'T prewash is stuff I buy specifically for a swap. I always think that way the recipient gets to choose.

Having said that, MaryQuilts comment about sneezing makes me wonder... :santa_tongue:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: buickjim on December 04, 2007, 05:03:46 PM
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This is one of those questions that almost everyone has a strong opinion about. Generally speaking, I don't wash.

I do wash in specific circumstances. Swaps, baby fabric (because I use flannel on the back), batiks (because they tend to bleed and not be fixed).

This is what I wash fabric in for the first time, whether in a quilt already or when prewashing: 2 tsp detergent, 1/4 cup Retayne, 1 cup white vinegar.

A note on bleeding incidents. It takes two fabrics to have one. One to release dye and another one to accept it. Most fabrics are fixed so that they will not accept new dye. Inexpensive fabrics tend to skip this step.

I've only had one bleeding incident. Some red fabric in a log cabin bled onto some yellow. However, the red was no where near the yellow. Also the yellow was a cheap JoAnn's fabric and was the only fabric (among about a dozen) that took up any of the red dye.
That was an eye opener.



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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Pawstoquilt on December 04, 2007, 06:41:28 PM
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I always wash EVERYTHING, but, that's just my own preference, if the fabric is going to do anything weird, I want that to happen BEFORE I use it. Any questionable color I use Retayne and set the color.
Plus--I like to get rid of the chemical in the fabric before I handle it the several times required. There are people at my LQS who would never wash a piece of fabric. Isn't is great we are all different--makes life interesting.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Merry Bee on December 04, 2007, 07:47:57 PM
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I buy good fabric, but I am still afraid it will run or shrink. Also, I use my solids in baby quilts as well as in other quilts. I just like things to smell like clean laundry. I love the feel of clean cotton. But it has to be pressed, too, and that is a real bother. :santa_sad:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: QBee - Mary Ann on December 05, 2007, 08:16:44 AM
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Quote from: Merry Bee on December 04, 2007, 07:47:57 PM
But it has to be pressed, too, and that is a real bother. :santa_sad:

I wash for all the reasons the other washers have already said. I'm only posting a comment to say AMEN to Merry Bee's pressing comment! I've tried to convince DH it would be fun to be involved in my quilting projects - he could press the pre-washed fabric - but, no luck on that one! :santa_cry: QBee


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: memaw4 on December 20, 2007, 08:03:46 PM
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Quote from: Gumbiecat on December 04, 2007, 05:17:40 AM
I was surprised at how strongly quilters feel about this, yay or nay!

I'm one of the "in the door, in the machine" type people, having been burned once or twice with colour run. I've recently taken to adding a colour run sheet to the prewash as well, so I can do a mixture of dark colours without getting a gray overshadow to everything.

To bring back the nice, crisp feel, I also sometimes apply some spray starch before I begin cutting.

How about you?



I use spray sizing. Is that the same as spray starch?
I wash my fabric to keep it from shrinking and to get that "smell" and stiffiness out of it. Being a seamstress I have learned to always pre-wash fabric because of that reason alone. I don't like making something then washing it only to find out it has shrunk. Such a waste. Just my own opinion.

Jim? What is Retayne? And where do you buy it? I've never heard of it before. Thanks.

Kay


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: BearFoot on December 20, 2007, 08:30:54 PM
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Quote from: memaw4 on December 20, 2007, 08:03:46 PM
I use spray sizing. Is that the same as spray starch?
No, these are 2 different things. I like the sizing better. And I have heard that if you will be storing your fabric that the starch will attract bugs

Quote from: memaw4 on December 20, 2007, 08:03:46 PM
What is Retayne? And where do you buy it? I've never heard of it before. Kay
Retayne is a fixative that keeps the dye from bleeding on fabric. You should be able to get it at many LQSs in the US.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: quiltermarynel on December 20, 2007, 09:20:04 PM
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Press? Merry Bee, you've got to be kidding. I have trouble getting the DH to help me fold the larger pieces of fabric.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Merry Bee on December 20, 2007, 09:35:35 PM
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Ah, that was QuBee, I would not let my DH come near a piece of my good fabric with an iron.

He is sweet about paying any bills that come in, and that is help enough, as far as I am concerned. He has never once questioned an expense of mine concerning quilts.

He does ask why I have never learned to use the serger....gently, he asks, of course....and for the life of me, I cannot say why...but I do not like to use the serger.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: betweens on December 20, 2007, 10:23:52 PM
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I picked sometimes but not cause I feel like it.. it's depending on the project.. I do alot of stack and whack and one block wonders and four patch posey's (just in case no one knows LOL) you cannot wash your fabric to do these techniques..

I only wash when I am ready to do a project that is not related to stacking and whacking.. and even then not all the time.. applique yes.. prewash easier to work with fabric without the sizing.. but sometimes I love the crinkly effect after the quilt is done and THEN you wash.. looks kinda antiquey

Deb


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: TxMaryQuilts on December 21, 2007, 07:55:26 AM
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I have found that if I wash a load of fabric, ironing does not seem so tedious in front of the TV.
Ironing boards are adjustable and easily made to fit any chair. I sit and leisurely iron while watching/listening to TV and Voila! I am done.

Standing in the sewing room just seems to take forever and be such a drudge. :santa_sad:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: stitchinjj on December 21, 2007, 11:40:49 AM
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I rarely wash beforehand. I just don't like to do it and I have made red quilts that were not prewashed. I wash my quilts with cold water and put one of those Shout Color catchers in the load. So far--so good! I hate ironing too. I have a tv and DVD player in my sewing room. When I iron, which is rare, I am watching tv too!


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: memaw4 on December 21, 2007, 03:58:42 PM
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Quote from: Merry Bee on December 20, 2007, 09:35:35 PM
Ah, that was QuBee, I would not let my DH come near a piece of my good fabric with an iron.

He is sweet about paying any bills that come in, and that is help enough, as far as I am concerned. He has never once questioned an expense of mine concerning quilts.

He does ask why I have never learned to use the serger....gently, he asks, of course....and for the life of me, I cannot say why...but I do not like to use the serger.



Quote from: quiltermarynel on December 20, 2007, 09:20:04 PM
Press? Merry Bee, you've got to be kidding. I have trouble getting the DH to help me fold the larger pieces of fabric.



Quote from: BearFoot on December 20, 2007, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: memaw4 on December 20, 2007, 08:03:46 PM
I use spray sizing. Is that the same as spray starch?
No, these are 2 different things. I like the sizing better. And I have heard that if you will be storing your fabric that the starch will attract bugs

Quote from: memaw4 on December 20, 2007, 08:03:46 PM
What is Retayne? And where do you buy it? I've never heard of it before. Kay
Retayne is a fixative that keeps the dye from bleeding on fabric. You should be able to get it at many LQSs in the US.




I went and bought the sizing and do prefer it when ironing my fabric that I've just washed. I took the time this past summer and re-organized my fabric. I color co-ordinated all of it. It takes me minutes now to get what I need rather than taking hours to go through it. :santa_grin: I've not had any problem with color bleeding from my fabric yet!

Kay


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Candi Gordon on December 22, 2007, 04:24:55 AM
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I have always washed my fabric. I didn't use sizing or starch on my first one but I did on my second one. It seemed to quilt nicer.

I bought the fabric to make the Oak Leaf and Reel which is in the Fons & Porter mag. and the LQS clerk (friend) said not to wash it. I am going to quilt it without washing. I don't know if I will like to quilt it without being washed. Once I start, I guess, I'll find out, huh?

Candi


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: finisher on December 22, 2007, 05:29:38 AM
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Candi..I wouldn't prewash the Oak Reel fabrics either. Please let us know what you think of the fabric and how it is to work with. That quilt really tempts me. I just love the look of it!

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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: memaw4 on December 22, 2007, 08:21:33 AM
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I don't know how true this is, but my LQS told me that if you buy expenive fabric it has already been pre-washed. Have any of you ever heard that before? I always wash mine reguardless.

Kay


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: quiltermarynel on December 22, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
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It is my understanding that batiks are washed in their processing, but that does not mean chemicals are not added. In addition, many quilt stores (thankfully, not my LQS) have scented candles, and such to stink up the fabric. For me, those smells have to be washed out.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: stitchinjj on December 22, 2007, 01:29:36 PM
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I am so allergic to those stinky candles that I won't shop in a quilt shop that carries them. I have been given fat quarters that had a scent and therefore had to be washed right away.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: TxMaryQuilts on December 22, 2007, 03:00:11 PM
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I am glad my LQS doesn't do candles :santa_shocked:
I would not be able to shop there!


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Merry Bee on December 22, 2007, 03:08:49 PM
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Me, too. Some shops think they are a tourist boutique. :santa_rolleyes:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: stitchinjj on December 23, 2007, 06:04:58 AM
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I guess in a way they are as we all look up quilt shops when we travel right? I do worry that many are getting in so many gift things and candles that I will have to start shopping online. I sure hope not! My LQS owner shares my allergies in that area so at least I can shop there!

One of my dear friends bought the Reel Fabric, at least I think that was it? It was a preprint applique right? Anyhow what she got was lovely and made me want to order it too!


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: jennQT1 on December 23, 2007, 10:43:37 AM
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I always pre-wash unless it's a kit. I ran into a fabric once that was in a kit (and therefore not washed) and I was allergic to the chemicals in it. Since then I prewash. :santa_wink:


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Candi Gordon on December 23, 2007, 04:09:50 PM
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Finisher - I certainly will let you know how it goes on the Oak Leaf and Reel. I can't wait to get started on it. Guess what I ordered...go guess. OK, never mind. I ordered the 18" Grace Floor Frame for our anniversary which is in February. I saw it on another forum. Lady Texas had a picture of a beautiful quilt and the quilt was in the Grace Frame. My husband said he wanted to get a compound miter saw with a sliding thing and laser line. We had already gotten tires for one of our vehicles which was to be our Christmas present. (We're so romantic!!) Well, he wanted a laptop to use his DVDs on technical and learning things. I ordered it one day last week and it got here day before yesterday. He saw the saw...TeeHeeHee... sometimes I crack myself up...saw the saw...anyway, he saw an ad for the saw and decided he wanted it and told me to order whatever I wanted. So, I ordered the Grace Frame. He wanted me to get a Kitchenaid Mixer. I do need a new mixer and I can get one anytime. I wanted my anniversary gift to be special to celebrate 10 years. It is the perfect gift for me. It should be here next week or the week after. I will be quilting the Oak Leaf and Reel on my new Grace Frame 18" Floor Model. I am so excited.

I do like things that smell good but sometime candles, perfumes just about do me in. One of the stores I shop in (Dept. Store) has their cosmetic lines just as you go into the store. They have so many different perfumes. A lot of customers will spray the testers and it absolutely reeks. I don't like to walk by because it causes me to choke sometimes. I get past them as fast as I can while trying not to breath. I use to stop and get face lotion at one of the counters. I no longer do anymore. I never use to be that way.

Also, the candle thing. Like I said I love things to smell good but I certainly don't won't overpowered by the smell. I am a true believer in "Less is more".

Well, I will continue to wash unless something like the Oak Leaf and Reel. Also, I will use sizing. Speaking of sizing or starch, which brand do any of you recommend? I know jimbuick makes his own but I'm in the danged kitchen enough. I just want something to spray... I really am not lazy. Really, I'm not.

You all have a wonderful, beautiful Merry Christmas! Have a healthy, happy New Year, too. :santa_smiley: Canid


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: memaw4 on December 23, 2007, 05:06:46 PM
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Candi, is this a hand quilting frame or one for your machine?

Kay


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: finisher on December 23, 2007, 05:53:38 PM
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Candi..I think the Grace frame is a wise spend. It will last forever. :santa_wink: It sounds like you and DH buy things that are very practical. That's the way we are too.
Enjoy your new frame!


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: quiltermarynel on December 23, 2007, 09:10:41 PM
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Buick Jim, I missed that discussion. How do you make your sizing?


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: buickjim on December 24, 2007, 04:07:27 PM
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My homemade starch recipe goes like this:

In a large sauce pan, put 2 cups of water. Bring it to a boil. While that is happening, dissolve 3 heaping tablespoons of cornstarch (the same stuff you probably have in your cubboard) into 2 cups of cold water.

When the water boils, remove from heat and stir in the cornstarch mixture. Return to the heat and bring back to a boil. The starch will go from milky to transluecent. When that happens, remove from heat and add 4 cups of cold water.

When it's cooled, put the starch in a plastic juice bottle or other 2 quart container and keep it in the refrigerator as there are no preservatives in it.

This only runs about ten cents or so a batch.

--Jim



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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Merry Bee on December 24, 2007, 05:45:00 PM
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Hey Jim! Why are you washing fabric on Christmas Eve? Cheers, but not the detergent kind. :santa_grin:

(I will read and heed your advice after the fudge is made and eaten.)

Joy and Laughter, Jim!


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: quiltermarynel on December 24, 2007, 10:24:59 PM
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Thank you, Jim. Do you brush it on, or pump spray it?


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: buickjim on December 26, 2007, 08:44:35 AM
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I just put it in a spray bottle. Here in the states you can get them for about $1.99 at Walgreens.



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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: Candi Gordon on December 29, 2007, 06:25:24 PM
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memaw4, It is a hand quilting frame. I only machine piece and hand quilt. I am not brave enough to machine quilt. If I keep on buying fabric like I have been, I will be forced to machine piece to get things done faster.

I really enjoy hand quilting. It relaxes me. I feel like I am putting love in each little stitch. Sometimes that stitches are so little. I am fairly new to quilting but I am getting better.

I found out it takes about 3 weeks for the frame to arrive. I was a little disappointed. :santa_sad: I am still finishing up a wall hanging that was suppose to be a Christmas gift for DD. Well, guess what, it will be her Christmas present next year. I feel like I am way ahead of schedule now!!! :santa_grin: :santa_grin:

I want to learn how to needle turn applique this year. I have big plans!!!!

Everyone have a very HAPPY NEW YEAR

Candi


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: quiltermarynel on December 29, 2007, 06:56:10 PM
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I have WAY too many quilts in my plans to do the quilting by hand. Fortunately, freemotion wasn't nearly as hard to learn as I thought it would be. I still have to learn how to do it on the LA, but that will come with time, now that I can do LA from my electric scooter.

Memaw4, get any good book on applique and we'll talk you thru the rest. If you know how to hem, you are half way there for needleturn.


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: tlcquiltnut on January 02, 2008, 04:52:24 PM
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I always wash my fabrics. From the days of garment sewing and besides you put so much time into a quilt why risk something shrinking and colors fading in to a big mess. The feel of the fabric can be replace with sizing. Now to replace the sizing or not. I don't usually. Besides , I like to iron...... :santa_rolleyes: Tammy


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Title: Re: Prewashing fabric
Post by: TxMaryQuilts on January 02, 2008, 07:31:48 PM
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Quote from: tlcquiltnut on January 02, 2008, 04:52:24 PM
Besides , I like to iron...... :santa_rolleyes: Tammy


You very strange lady...LOL

Not really, sometimes it is a very peaceful endeavor.

Never - it ruins the feel! 3 (12%)
Sometimes - if I remember 6 (24%)
Most of the time 2 (8%)
Always - before I start a project 8 (32%)
Always - as soon I get in the door! 6 (24%)
Don't wash, only wet, soak and dry 0 (0%)
Why would I want to do that? 0 (0%)
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